I've been meaning to write this out of my system, so here goes. It involves a recruiter we will call Anne, an agency we will call Interactive Media, an HR person we will call Stacy, and a hiring manager we will call Fred.
You will not remember, because of course I couldn't post it, that I was getting miserable under my new boss and decided to post my resume on Monster. I got zillions of calls and emails. The market is quite good right now, all ye job seekers! One of the few calls I returned was to recruiter Anne. We set up an interview for
4/22. [By the way, job seekers do not necessarily meet with recruiters in person. In my experience and that of my cohorts, the relationship with the recruiter is via phone and email. However, it was my first move in the new job search, so fine, I went to her office.] She told me about a spot at Interactive Media. This is a company I've known about for over a decade and always admired, so I was eager to pursue it, even though the job itself wasn't exactly what I wanted.
Anne calls me two days later saying Interactive Media wants to do a phone interview at 10am,
4/26. Of course, sure, I'll schlep out to a Starbucks so I can do a phone interview during business hours. So that's what happened. I knew the first name of the person who was calling me but I did not know what she did or how she might be related to the open position. She fires questions at me for about 20 minutes and then finishes off with the unexpected, "What do you do for fun?"
I call Anne right afterward to tell her I thought it went fine. She calls me back later to tell me that IM wants to meet with me in person. She calls me even though I have asked her to email me as I can't talk on the phone at work. She tells me I'll be meeting with 3 people and gives me a time. I email back to confirm and ask the names, titles, and relevance of the people I'll be meeting with, and also who it was that I spoke with on the phone. It takes an additional exchange to extract this information.
May 3rd I go to IM and meet with Fred and another VP. It is not clear at this point to whom I would be reporting but it is clear that these are the decision makers, and that I aced the interviews. Indeed, Anne emails me that I did very well and that IM wants me back the following Thursday,
May 10, for the "final" interview. Again, two hours out of the business day. I meet with two people I would be working with. Both treat the meeting as an interview and have prepared interview questions. I find this a little tiresome. Shouldn't it be more of a conversation, an exchange of information?
One of them asks me to send him work samples. I'm a little surprised by this but in my thank-you note attach a few files. Since I had just guessed at his email address, I emailed HR Stacy to confirm it, mentioning that I was sending him some work samples he requested. Stacy confirms the email address is correct but tells me that all samples should be sent to her. This is the first weird vibe I get.
Meanwhile, it turns out that Anne is the only person in the universe who cannot receive email I send from my Sidekick. She also continues to call me at work, using my cell phone number, as if that makes a difference.
May 12 Anne asks me for references. She also asks me to send them work samples, "please call me so we can discuss what to send!" Uhm, I don't think so. I'm not going to run my work samples by the recruiter for permission. Anyway, I tell her I already sent IM samples, and I send her my references. She calls me and asks me what other jobs I'm looking at. Stupidly, I tell her. She pushes, which job would you take? I say, I haven't even gotten an offer, how am I to know? She says, what do you need to know? I'm stunned.
Anne explains that the way IM works is they want to know that I will accept their offer before they make the offer. I tell her this makes no sense. I need to know the content of the offer to make such a decision. She presses, "you need the number?" [meaning the salary amount] I say I need more than that - the benefits, who I'd report to, the title ... She emails me the PDF of IM's benefits. She also calls my references.
Anne calls me
May 15: IM wants a sample of writing I have done for the Web and also wants me to come in to "meet the rest of the team," including Fred, to whom I'd report. I tell her I've already met Fred and that it's really inconvenient to have to miss more work for yet another interview.
For internal reasons, IM pushes the third in-person interview off and I meet with them again
May 24. I am interviewed again by Fred, the hiring VP, and the information architect, who also has a list of interview questions to fire at me. Once again I wrap up with Stacy, having to muster enthusiasm when I'm feeling worn out and annoyed. Turns out they want me to meet with yet another person who is on vacation, who has been filling in for the position I'm up for. I manage to negotiate via Anne to make this a phone call.
It's Memorial Day weekend. I have taken Tuesday and Wednesday off to spend with my sister who's visiting. I'm expecting this last call to be scheduled for Tuesday. Instead, IM now wants me to talk to an additional person, someone who's not even in the group I'd be working in. This interview takes place over the phone on Wednesday, and it is, again, an interview. The same old questions fired at me again, What was your biggest challenge? What project were you most proud of? What do you do when the client changes their mind? Blablabla. I've kinda had it.
The fill-in person I'm supposed to speak with is on vacation until Friday,
June 1st. I manage to press Anne to insist that this call take place at 9am, so I can take ti before the work day officially starts. Thursday Stacy calls me herself and lets me know that the interview has to be moved from 9am to "anytime" else that day. I pick 2:15pm and she promises she'll be able to turn around an offer by end of day Friday. Friday I make the phone call to this last person, who grills me with the standard scenario questions, and I am so sick of it, but after a half hour it's over. I email Stacy that I spoke with the person and she emails back, "I'll get in touch Monday, have a great weekend!" Great.
Monday,
6/3, rolls in. Anne calls to tell me that Stacy will be getting in touch in a couple of hours. Two hours later, Anne merely forwards me an email from Stacy that says she'll get in touch by end of day. A couple of hours later, Anne tells me that Stacy will get in touch on Tuesday. I have long started having doubts about this job/company/process. It had been clear to me after I first met with Fred
5/3 that he wanted to hire me. What was going on over there?
Tuesday,
June 5, I have a migraine, and stay in bed. The phone rings in the early afternoon and it's Stacy. "Anne?" she says. I say no, it's me. "Oh, I meant to call Anne. Well, now that I have you on the phone, I might as well tell you - we're prepared to move forward with an offer!" She says this like she's telling me there is a Santa Claus. I say, "That's great!" with as much enthusiasm as I can muster. But if you thought that at this point she would tell me what they're actually offering, you were mistaken. "So we want to get back to you tomorrow! Does that timing work for you?"
I'm not even sure what she's asking me. Work for me how? What timing? I say, "I guess so." She says, "What's that supposed to mean?" Me: "What's
what supposed to mean?" "What do you mean,
I guess so?" "Uhm, tomorrow is fine. I thought I'd hear from you on Friday but it's no big deal, tomorrow is great." She starts explaining how my phone conversation with that last person took place too late on Friday to turn around an offer by the end of the day (even though she had promised it - not to mention it was Tuesday afternoon now), and then she asks me, "by the way," for a client reference. I tell her I don't know if I can give her one. She says that would be a problem. I tell her I can't give her a client I'm currently working with. She says why don't you think about it. We hang up.
How could they be ready to make me an offer if she still needs a reference? How could she need yet something else after all I'd already provided?
Anne calls. In panic. "Stacy told me you don't sound like you even want the job." Unbelievable. Anne and I argue. I send Stacy an email saying how thrilled I am to be considered for the position, of course I'm excited. Thanks very much. A few minutes later, an email arrives from Anne: I should not contact IM directly in the future, only through her. I'm nonplussed and call Anne. "Did Stacy say that? Did she tell you to tell me not to contact them directly?" Anne confirms. I sigh. "I think you should tell Stacy that I'm no longer interested in the position." Anne hangs up. I cannot believe this. But I am strangely relieved.
The next day Fred and I spoke about what had happened, which was good, because I had liked Fred and he was the main reason I remained interested in the position despite it not being exactly what I had set out for. In the end, we agreed to stay in touch.
I'm glad I'm starting the job I am on Monday.
gertrude